The End Times?

[Akenseth]

Well, the reason I'm posting this is because there seems to be a total lull in the number of battles the Forces of Order have been posting towards the campaign, and it seems to me that the Forces of Disorder seem to have a distinct advantage in both numbers and organization - not to mention the quantity of battles that are being reported.

Have the Forces of Disorder secured victory, or are the Forces of Order going to make a valiant effort / last stand?

Either way, I have plans that could involve a secondary campaign. Discuss!

[Encephalatitus]

I would be sad to see the campaign end without ending properly, but if it is as lopsided as it appears to be......

I feel that the majority of the few players who participate on a regular basis really care about the campaign.  Since we are a rather small group, alter the campaign to be centered more around the combatants than the combats.   

Split the FoD and the FoO up into their separate factions.  I know it is easier to lump everyone into two categories, but if you split them up then if one "faction" is inactive, it will help prevent a run-away for any one side.  Ie....A lot of my duels and 40K battles are against fellow FoD players.....I just don't have that many FoO players that live around me.  So when a battle is fought, it is going to be a win for the FoD in either event.  Haha....let the Saint actually lead a rebellion against the Imperium!  The Tau could expand their growing empire......

Allow the posting of duels to stand the way it is currently set up.  Although I may not agree with Caanon sometimes, Caanon has done a wonderful job overseeing the dueling and has done everything possible to get more people dueling.  I like how dueling forces players to interact in real time....and not in posts.  It is more personal and you get to make "friends" a lot easier in chat than you do in posts or pm's.

Limit the postings of other battles to one per day, unless battle reports are written.  If battle reports are written up, they continue to count for 5 battles, and the most you can post is three battle reports per day.  I really like having the option to play DoW and Final Liberation (thanks J8, I have a new found interest in FL) and I think they should be kept in the posting area as well, but at one per day.

Since "fiction/fluff" writing is down, let it count towards battles as well.  I think the biggest "flaw" in the campaign is the lack of an easily accessed storyline.  I feel the storyline is what gives GW it's advantage over other sci-fi games....It definately is not the rules ....so let the story of aftermath make a larger impact on the campaign. 

Get the Librarium up and running!  I have learned quite a bit about the "history" of Aftermath, but it has been mostly tid-bits of info I picked up here and there through dueling or asking questions.  Aftermath has a rich history......use it, and the active players!

Anyway, that is my two cents.  If there is anything I can do to help......just ask!

   

[Caanon]

I think the campaign is pretty much over, we can all see what the end result will be.

The FoO has been aware of this for awhile and we tried to adjust our tactics to suit but the gambit has failed.

At the moment I see the campaing as more a draw (aftermath is untouched, FoD have conquests on minor planets but the FoO did strike right at Braxton's heart). If the campaign continues the FoD will win purely because of numbers.

so FoD what do you want? A easy win or hard fought draw?

[Encephalatitus]

The conquests on minor planets:  Karsonis, Arcus Hold and Flamberg were all campaign events.  Prox and Danislaf used to offer the FoD access to bonus' against Aftermath before the map change and the FoD decided to continue it's conquest of them for campaign fluff reasons.  The only two planets that offer the FoO bonus' against the the FoD's campaign strongholds, Alba and Barnosh, are both on the cusp of falling into our control.

Ignus is the only planet that never had any "strategic value".

The FoO did indeed strike at the heart of the FoD.   The FoO fought bravely and did wrestle control of the Tabulis Rift from the hands of the FoD.  Unfotunately, the FoO did not have the firepower necessary to hold the Tabulis Rift and actually threaten Braxton's seat of power.  The gambit failed, and left the FoO broken.

As the campaign stands right now, I do not think I would call it a tie.   

The decision however is Akenseth's.  This is his campaign and he will have the final say-so as to it's outcome. 

[J8]

The campaign is dead, long live the new campaign.

I think this is a suitable conclusion, we just need some pieces of fluff to wrap things up and then we can focus on planning the next campaign, it's story and setting.

[Caanon]

What was Braxton's objective? To burn Aftermath.

What was the FoO's? To stop him.

We did that so technically we win

[Apostles of Contagion]

Hahahaha!  You silver tongued devil 

We are burning aftermath, planet by planet.......and we have yet to be stopped.

Since there was no time table set up outlining when the planet Aftermath had to fall, if the FoO wish to throw in the towel, then we accept your unconditional surrender.  Otherwise, no way   

 

[Caanon]

No, you're burning a bunch of support planets that don't mean much. Aftermath, as in the planet Aftermath, the linch pin of the sector and Braxton's ojective is untouched by your grubby little hands.

We win, accept it, stop being poor losers

To be nice we're willing to offer you a draw

[Encephalatitus]

So Akenseth.....what is your opinion?

Has the failed attempt to take out Braxton by the FoO been sufficient enough of a storyline to warrant the FoO the right to say they stopped the FoD?

I do not believe so, but this is your campaign.  If you would like the campaign to end, that is fine.  All we ask is that you make it some outside interference that stopped us and saved the Aftermath Sector from being over-run, and not some silly half-baked imperial fable   

If you don't care if the campaign ends right now, the FoD is prepared to fight until Aftermath falls, the FoO deliver us a major defeat, or the FoO admit defeat 

[Akenseth]

Honestly I was trying to provoke some action out of this, seems the subsector's morale has been crushed and it seems doomed to destruction as the Forces of Disorder sweep over and destroy any last resistance.

Looking at the map in entirety, there really is only one last bastion remaining, and that is Aftermath. It is the final linchpin holding anything together. It seems that without direct intervention there is no doubt about what is going to happen.

Now, it's not my business to interfere - If the Forces of Order want to counterattack, they should be given the opportunity. As well, the Forces of Disorder should be allowed to see the fruits of their labor.

Therefore, for now things will continue. I don't see the Forces of Order recovering, but that is entirely in their hands now.

[J8]

I view this as much more as an end of a chapter, the FoO are being pushed back as there are insufficient members to continue a balanced campaign.  I view the campaign should be concluding so we can address this.  Personally I'm wanting to focus in on the story in a much more controlled manner.

Currently I objectively view it as a draw heading towards a FoD victory, though if we based it on kill points it would be clearly a FoD victory. The war cannot be over, with all these armies in place even with the fragmenting of alliances and pacts and teams turning on each other, there are still enough FoD in the sector to wipe it out.  Our aim is to produce a balanced, fun and challenging campaign for all members, as well as keeping it simplistic for ease.

^{I wrote the above before Akenseth posted his response.}

This is correct, the sector wide campaign has not concluded yet.  I actually haven't looked at any of the results over the weekend as I was away again.  It looks like the final days are truely upon the sector.  The FoO's gambit failed, now it is time for the last last stand.  "Remember the Aftermath."

[Encephalatitus]

I have spoken with several FoD members, and although we do want to "win", we know the campaign has entered the "Monopoly" phase.......a winner is pretty much determined, but the game still goes on for hours until he/she owns everything......and it is not enjoyable for everyone.

I know the campaign has been imbalanced for quite a while.....I do the numbers on a daily basis....and it has to have been difficult for the FoO.  I agree with J8, I would like to see the story of Aftermath continue to unfold, but in a much more controlled and written manner.

My proposal:

The FoO abandon several strategic positions in order to bolster key defensive positions.  A last stand if you will.

For every imperial controlled warzone the FoO voluntarily pull support from and let slip into FoD control, the FoO get to either add defenses to an existing key warzone, or let battles posted on an existing key warzone with defenses count double....something which will help simulate a true last stand.

Inversely, for every warzone the FoO let slip into FoD control.....they immediately drop to 49% or lower....and FoD battles posted there count double as well.....something which will help simulate the warzones sudden defenselessness and our natural ruthlessness.

Let written storylines concerning warzones count towards battles posted.  There could be a sliding scale as to how many points they will be worth.  The bigger the story the more it is worth.

Just some ideas.....Iwould love to hear some others.

 

[Caanon]

No. This campaign has finished (and yes a spectacular event is planned for why his has happened, but we are not saying jack at the moment). We are already working on the end game fluff at this point.

The mod team is currently trying to work out what to do to with the next campaign as well to hopefully balance out the teams abit.

[Encephalatitus]

If that is what you want. 

Unless something drastic happens, the FoD will continue with it's overall game plan:

Dainslaf and the Prox System are to be subjugated and handed over to the Orks while pressure is to be (hopefully) maintained on Barnosh.

Barring any unseen surprises, we will then direct all of our attention to the Aftermath warzones.

[Caanon]

So you're trying to win the campaign before I can get the fluff out that says the campaign has concluded?

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